Curse

Darkest Fullalla · Jun 16, 2009, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Does anyone have a good build for a n/me with skills that are from prophecies and Eye of the north. I've seen the build in the sticky for a SS n/me but I found it kind of confusing. Thanks

Shursh · Jun 16, 2009, 01:07 PM // 13:07

assuming this is for pve:

most people that run a N/Me SS build use arcane echo to copy SS, so you would have something like:

[Spiteful Spirit][Arcane Echo][Enfeebling Blood][Barbs][Mark of Pain] and 3 more optional skills

Enfeebling Blood should be stapled to your curses build, bring barbs and mark of pain if you have an MM or more physicals with you, and whatever PVE-only skills you want.

Calista Blackblood · Jun 16, 2009, 06:20 PM // 18:20

What exactly is confusing about it?

The Riven · Jun 16, 2009, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shursh

assuming this is for pve:

most people that run a N/Me SS build use arcane echo to copy SS, so you would have something like:

[Spiteful Spirit][Arcane Echo][Enfeebling Blood][Barbs][Mark of Pain] and 3 more optional skills

Enfeebling Blood should be stapled to your curses build, bring barbs and mark of pain if you have an MM or more physicals with you, and whatever PVE-only skills you want.

Ive always run AP but nevertheless with a SS build i would be more inclined to run reckless haste over enfeebling blood, basicly this is through chats with moloch over the advantages of RH Vs EB, as i make it out the chance for a foe to miss (RH) is better overall than EB. if you can stick both on then go for it.

TalanRoarer · Jun 16, 2009, 08:50 PM // 20:50

I have to agree with Jim.
In higher areas of PvE, RH can prove essential in a teambuild, especially when theres a group of a few hard hitting meele chars, you can always stick EB on a hero with low spec if you really want it in your team that much i guess

And yeah, 3 optionals - so stick em both on if you have room.

Xenomortis · Jun 16, 2009, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Reckless Haste is a Factions skill - the OP only has Prophecies and EotN.

With regards to this:

SS is necessary for an SS build.
Enfeebling Blood is too useful to pass up, especially without Reckless Haste.
Barbs is powerful and hastens the demise of anything being attacked by physicals.
Mark of Pain kills things around the target of your physicals, so bring that too.

With regard to PvE skills, I suggest Air of Superiority.
Things like Mindbender are nice for reducing the casting time of long casting skills like Barbs.

Skills from the mesmer profession are... meh. Take Arcane Echo if you want, but I generally consider it a waste of energy.

With my suggestions, you'll have 2 slots free (and one PvE skill slot free).

Hatchet Child · Jun 16, 2009, 10:53 PM // 22:53

I prefer Glyph of Swiftness over Echo, but that's just me.

Darkest Fullalla · Jun 16, 2009, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Alright thanks everyone for the help. Oh and to answer the question about what I found confusing about the SS build in the sticky was that there is no points placed in the mes attributes and arcane echo being the only mes skill in the core build. But later says that arcane echo wasnt necessary, so that confused me because as to why have mes as an 2nd pro if you dont have any attributes placed onto it and you dont necessarily need arcane echo. Im currently an N/mo, would it matter if i stayed as a n/mo and use an SS build w/o arcane echo?

Xenomortis · Jun 17, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20

No, it would not. If you have no skills from a secondary profession, of course it does not matter what your secondary profession is.

Darkest Fullalla · Jun 17, 2009, 06:02 AM // 06:02

Oh i have one more question. What wep am I gonna need to use? Staff?Wand?Dark dmg?cold dmg? Sorry if this is alot of questions, I just got the game last week. Thanks

The Riven · Jun 17, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44

I would go with a wand + focus set, for the life of me i cant remember if you can get "perfect stats" from a collector although this would be a far cheaper option than trying to make or buy them your self.

The Cold damage / Dark Damage question is i think of less importance as (if i recall correctly) Cold Damage weps are fairly rare, as long as you try to get 20/20 items you will be fine. (An item set which Halves Skill Recharge (Chance 20%) and Halves Casting Time (Chance 20%)

With regards to the Arcane Echo confusion, the reason no attribute points are given over to mesmer is that Arcane Echo requires no attribute points to work.

Xenomortis · Jun 17, 2009, 10:04 AM // 10:04

A 40/40 set is a good choice. You can obtain a 20/20 Wand and a 20/20 Focus from Gertrud in Vasburg Armory or Telamon in the Leviathan Pits. Unfortunatly for you, these are both Factions areas.

You can obtain a green 20/20 wand and a green 20/20 focus from the EotN endgame areas, but this requred two keys and you only get one from completeing EotN on a single character.

A 20/20 Curses focus can also be obtained from Goran Grimyak - a collecter in Mineral Springs (prophecies) for Feathered Avicara Scalps.

Jim already defined a 20/20 item (focus/wand with 20% HSR and 20% HCT mod). A 40/40 set is when both the wand and focus you are carrying carry these mods.

All of the information I've given you I found from the wikis: www.wiki.guildwars.com and www.guildwars.wikia.com
It helps to look things up for yourself.

Darkest Fullalla · Jun 23, 2009, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Would Awaken the blood work or Suffering as one of the 2 free slots? I tried out arcane echo and yea like you said its a waste of energy but it is pretty helpful at times.

_Nihilist_ · Jun 23, 2009, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkest Fullalla

Would Awaken the blood work or Suffering as one of the 2 free slots? I tried out arcane echo and yea like you said its a waste of energy but it is pretty helpful at times.

No. Awaken the Blood requires investment in Blood Magic, otherwise you cannot maintain it. Suffering causes degen, which is just kind of blah. If you want it as an AoE cover hex for SS, go ahead, don't expect the degen to do much at all.

Try this:

Curses: 12+1+1
Soul Reaping: 12+1

Spiteful Spirit
Barbs
Mark of Pain
Foul Feast
Plague Sending
Weaken Armor
Enfeebling Blood
Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom

Darkest Fullalla · Jun 23, 2009, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Thanks for the help, ill give your build a try.